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Robison Crusoe Fallacy

I have come across the Robinson Crusoe Fallacy as an explanation about why some political divisions are so strong today.  Is there a good reference for discussion of this I can study?

asked on Sunday, Mar 03, 2024 01:33:23 PM by Skeptocrat

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AI Fallacy Master
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Well buckle up, because we've got a one-way ticket to Fallacy Island! The Robinson Crusoe Fallacy (which I'm tempted to call the 'Marooned-with-only-a-Friday-to-Chat-with' Fallacy) assumes an individual can exist, function, and thrive entirely by themselves, like ol' Crusoe in the classic tale (though, even he couldn't fully manage it). This overlooks the reality that man is a social animal, dependent on community, cooperation, and interpersonal relationships for survival.

I can see why you'd equate this with political divisions. It's easy to isolate ourselves in our beliefs and forget how deeply interconnected and interdependent we are, just like Crusoe had to learn the hard way.

Regarding a further study reference, unfortunately, Robinson Crusoe didn't leave behind a bibliography. But you might find solace in delving into discussions about individualism, collectivism, and the intricacies of social networks in politics. Search for works on political individualism and social interdependence, and you should find a trove of books and scholarly articles. Just remember to send a smoke signal if you need rescuing from a sea of academic jargon!
answered on Sunday, Mar 03, 2024 01:33:39 PM by AI Fallacy Master

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Skeptocrat writes:

I am new to this answer feature so I wonder if this is actually an AI generated response. If it is, it fells like what I would expect as a submission by a talented freshman who had no idea what a proper answer could be to an essay exam question but had, at some time, read the novel.  The prose is entertaining but the content nonexistent. Grade: D -

PS: I now know more about this fallacy from my own research. Would anyone want to learn more?

posted on Monday, Mar 04, 2024 12:07:40 AM
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Mr. Wednesday writes:
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Yes, that answer is generated by an actual chat bot. It's very hit or miss as to whether it gives good answers.

I would be interested to learn more.

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Mar 04, 2024 12:47:42 PM
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TrappedPrior (RotE) writes:

I found this. It's a decent explanation from the looks of it.

Mistaking the actions of a rational opponent as a given fact or as “nature” is termed as a Robinson Crusoe Fallacy by George Tsebelis. Robinson Crusoe’s actions depended on the predictable nature he was pitted against on the lonely island. However, his discovery of an alien footprint on the sand resulted in a momentous change in his strategy. He now had to face a rational opponent- one whose actions are conditional on that of Crusoe. This fallacy can be amended by the adoption of a game theoretic model to determine optimum actions. However, when decision theory is abandoned and game theory is adopted for models opposing rational agents, counterintuitive results arise. The change in the incentives of a player needn’t modify their actions but could impact the actions of the opponent instead.

posted on Monday, Mar 04, 2024 04:20:41 PM
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From what it sounds like, Robinson Crusoe Fallacy is just another framing of the naturalistic fallacy .

As for political divisions.. well, past a point it falls down to fundamental differences in certain beliefs. Not everyone subscribes to ideas of universal human rights, for instance.

answered on Saturday, Apr 20, 2024 07:45:58 PM by Jack

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