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As you start to list properties that the animal lacks to justify eating them, you begin to realize that some humans also lack those properties, yet we don’t eat those humans. Is this logical proof that killing and eating animals for food is immoral? Don’t put away your steak knife just yet.
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The statement: “No, it is so complex, it must have been created by God.” In essence, B is saying it (the universe) is unknowable because it is so complex. While the discussion could easily revolve around the Argument from Ignorance (appeal to ignorance, argumentum ad ignorantiam), because it assumes a claim is true (or false) because it has not been proven false (true) or cannot be proven false (true) or the Argument from Incredulity, (the Divine Fallacy), which is “I cannot imagine how this could be true, therefore it must be false.” But I think a deeper analysis is in order. To be unknowable is different from unknown. Unknown merely means something not known at present or not known to you. But unknowable means that which can never be known. Unknowable is that which, by its nature, cannot be known. The first hurdle is to define both the universe and God. Beyond that, to focus only on the universe aspect, they must explain how do they know the universe is “so complex?” To claim this, they already know something about the universe: it is so complex. Yet to know something about the complexity is to have knowledge, and that alone contradicts the proposition. Beyond that, they have to adduce evidence to support the proposition. The old Burden of Proof rule rears its reasonable head again. |
answered on Monday, Oct 25, 2021 11:44:57 AM by Dr. Richard | |
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Unsupported claim. Why not created by alien? We don't know the possibilities, so we can't necessarily call it a false dilemma , but we also can't claim those as the only two options.
Another unsupported claim (and unreasonable).
Except for the believers in magic (or gods that use magic), the magic is a presupposition that needs no explanation. To them, this won't be convincing, but to a science-minded individual that seeks explanation (not taking things on "faith") it does make sense. |
answered on Sunday, Oct 24, 2021 09:37:59 PM by Bo Bennett, PhD | |
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This does not follow. Something may be complex. That only means it's multifaceted and probably hard to understand intuitively, maybe even at all. It doesn't imply Big G put it together anymore than it implies Cthulhu did. I've said 'weak argument' because this needs to be fleshed out more.
I'm guessing the 'complexity that you [person B] cannot yet explain' is the origin of the universe, and the solution of 'even greater complexity' is God...but I'm not fully understanding this part. |
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answered on Sunday, Oct 24, 2021 09:08:18 PM by TrappedPrior (RotE) | ||||||||
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answered on Monday, Oct 25, 2021 07:44:19 AM by Shawn | ||||
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