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Manstett

America’s foreign policy versus domestic needs. False equivalence?

Do you take care of a neighbor first while knowing that your own family is in need? Do you personally donate money to charities that you don't have? The same fiscal responsibility each of us exercises (or should exercise) in our homes should carry forward to government at all levels.

asked on Friday, Feb 14, 2025 08:53:27 PM by Manstett

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Mr. Wednesday
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The role of government is a lot more complex than the role of a household, so analogies that compare them are never going to be perfect. I've seen arguments like this recently in an attempt to justify the recent attempts to cut foreign aid, but it ignores the fact that foreign policy is part of the role of the US government, and that foreign aid is a component of that that's not entirely altruistic. I've frequently heard it referred to as an exercise of "soft power," meaning that it will curry favor with the countries receiving the aid, and make them more receptive to economic and military partnerships with the US. Pulling the aid sends a message that the US is not a reliable partner, and leaves a void that can be filled by another economically powerful country like China. Foreign aid also serves a purpose of creating stability. Food instability in a region can easily turn into civil unrest and military conflict. Removal of disease control measures can cause disease to spread in a region, and then globally. In those cases, a small problem can snowball into a much bigger and more expensive one that may become impossible for the US to ignore.

Overall, I would say this is a weak analogy . While the analogy of a household budget could be tailored to match the complexities of foreign policy spending, it's not presented that way because that's clearly not the point they're trying to make.

answered on Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 12:04:41 PM by Mr. Wednesday

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AI Fallacy Master writes:
[To Mr. Wednesday] The student's answer correctly identifies the use of a weak analogy in the original question. The original question presents an analogy between household fiscal responsibility and the responsibilities of a government, suggesting that the same principles apply to both. However, this analogy is flawed because the roles, responsibilities, and scales at which households and governments operate are vastly different.

Here are some specific elements of why this analogy is considered weak:

1. **Complexity and Scope**: A government deals with a multitude of factors, including international relations, economic stability, national security, and global health, which a household does not. The decision-making process is much more complex and has broader implications than those faced by individual households.

2. **Diversified Responsibilities**: Governments have obligations that extend beyond direct economic considerations, including humanitarian aid and maintaining geopolitical stability. These aspects are intrinsic to a government's duties but do not typically apply to the financial responsibilities within a household.

3. **Interdependencies**: In the global context, actions taken by one nation can have widespread effects. A government's foreign policy, including foreign aid, can have significant strategic value beyond immediate financial considerations, such as fostering alliances and preventing conflicts that could have more costly outcomes.

The student highlights how foreign aid can serve as a form of soft power and contribute to international stability, which are strategic aspects beyond simple financial expense. By emphasizing these points, the student demonstrates why the household analogy fails to capture the complexities and nuances of government responsibilities, making it a weak analogy in this context.
posted on Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 12:04:46 PM
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Bo Bennett, PhD
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Interestingly, this is a good philosophical and moral argument - as well as one that is worded in such a way as to solicit the desired response. The way to approaching this kind of argument is to play the same game. Ask, "Is it right to buy our kids a 20th pair of jeans when other children are literally starving to death?" Then make the analogy: "Our neighbors' children are literally starving to death while America's children figuratively speaking, already has 20 pairs of jeans." Yes, this is hyperbole, but it will win you the rhetorical argument. Now, get into the serious moral argument and talk about how there are different level of "need," and make a moral argument for lower level needs (food, shelter, etc.) to being met globally being a greater priority.

By the same logic, however, a strong argument can be made that America does have lower-level needs that are not being met and can be if funds and efforts were diverted nationally. So be prepared for that.

answered on Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 06:37:05 AM by Bo Bennett, PhD

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AI Fallacy Master writes:
[To Bo Bennett, PhD] The original question and the student's answer both involve a complex debate regarding the prioritization of foreign policy versus domestic needs. The logical approach in the student's answer recognizes the potential for a false equivalence but delves into additional considerations.

1. **False Equivalence:** The original question might seem to suggest a false equivalence by comparing national policy to household economics. Governments and households operate under different economic principles. A government can run on deficits and priorities are set based on a range of geopolitical and social factors, unlike a household which must prudently manage limited resources.

2. **Rhetorical Techniques:** The student's answer effectively employs rhetorical techniques by using a counter-analogy. However, hyperbole, as acknowledged by the student ("Yes, this is hyperbole"), might undermine the argument as it can exaggerate situations beyond practical comparisons.

3. **Complexity of Needs:** The student touches upon the valid point that different levels of need exist, and applying personal household logic to national policy oversimplifies these complexities. The analogy with the 20 pairs of jeans implies that resources may be wasted domestically when more critical needs exist internationally, which offers a moral perspective on resource allocation.

4. **Balance of Argument:** The student smartly anticipates a counterargument that domestically, there are indeed unmet lower-level needs, urging one to be prepared to balance both sides of the debate. This reinforces the necessity for nuanced debate rather than definitive declarations.

In summary, the student's answer aptly identifies potential shortcomings in the original question's logic and effectively counters it with rhetorical devices and nuanced argument but should remain cautious of oversimplification and hyperbole that might detract from a balanced, fact-based discussion.
posted on Saturday, Feb 15, 2025 06:37:10 AM
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AI Fallacy Master
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The passage you provided presents an argument that could be critiqued for potentially having elements of false equivalence. Here's a breakdown:

1. **False Equivalence**: False equivalence occurs when two subjects are presented as being logically equivalent, but in fact, they are not. The passage compares the way individuals manage their personal finances with how a government should manage its budget concerning foreign policy and domestic needs.

2. **Differences in Scale and Responsibility**: Individual financial decisions often focus solely on the needs and resources of a single household, which is a much smaller scale than a government's obligations. Governments have broader responsibilities that include not only the welfare of their own citizens but also international relations and global responsibilities. These broader considerations make the analogy with individual household budgeting potentially misleading.

3. **Fiscal Capacity**: Individuals and governments differ significantly in fiscal capacity and the means to generate revenue. Governments can employ a variety of fiscal tools (like taxation and monetary policy) that aren't available to individuals. This is a crucial distinction that isn't addressed in the argument.

4. **Complex Priorities**: While a household usually prioritizes the family it directly supports, a government's role is more complex, involving obligations to many stakeholders and balancing short-term and long-term interests. This complexity isn’t captured in the simplistic personal vs. government financial management comparison.

5. **Moral and Ethical Perspectives**: The argument also implicitly invokes a moral or ethical stance on fiscal responsibility, suggesting that it is inherently irresponsible for governments to prioritize foreign aid over domestic needs. However, this simplifies the ethical debate around the potential benefits of foreign aid (such as geopolitical stability or humanitarian factors) and the interdependence of global and domestic welfare.

In conclusion, while there are some similarities in terms of the need for fiscal responsibility at both personal and government levels, the analogy oversimplifies and overlooks significant differences, leading to a false equivalence.
answered on Friday, Feb 14, 2025 08:53:37 PM by AI Fallacy Master

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