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Kris

What's wrong with this logic?

Why do women overwhelmingly file for divorce? Until 1964, an employer could refuse to hire you because you're a woman. Until 1974, refusing to sell a woman a home was legal. Until the 1970s, banks could refuse a women credit cards and bank accounts unless co-signed by her husband. Until 1988, you could refuse to rent to women with children. Grandma didn't stay in relationships because they were better then, it's because society wasn't built for her independence. 

asked on Sunday, Dec 08, 2024 12:15:18 PM by Kris

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The reasoning in this passage is attempting to answer the question of why women overwhelmingly file for divorce by citing historical legal restrictions on women's independence. However, there are several issues with the logic and reasoning:

1. **Correlation vs. Causation Fallacy**: The passage implies a causal relationship between historical legal restrictions and why women file for divorce today. While historical contexts certainly impact societal dynamics, the passage doesn't provide direct evidence showing that these specific legal changes cause the current higher rate of divorces filed by women.

2. **Oversimplification**: The explanation reduces a complex issue to a singular historical perspective. The dynamics around why women file for divorce are multifaceted and can include contemporary factors such as changes in societal norms, economic independence, shifts in gender roles, personal relationship dynamics, and more.

3. **False Dichotomy**: The passage suggests that the only reason women didn't file for divorce in the past was due to societal restrictions, ignoring other possible reasons like personal, cultural, or religious beliefs, or contentment in some marriages despite societal constraints.

4. **Historical Context Misapplication**: While it's true that past societal structures limited women's independence, these historical facts are not directly addressing the current societal reasons for why women might choose to file for divorce today.

5. **Appeal to History**: The argument heavily relies on historical practices to explain a contemporary issue. While history can offer insights, it is a logical fallacy to use historical precedent as the sole explanation for modern phenomena without accounting for current societal changes and individual agency.

Overall, the passage needs a more nuanced approach, considering a wider range of contemporary factors and evidence, to effectively address the question of why women today file for divorce with greater frequency.
answered on Sunday, Dec 08, 2024 12:15:42 PM by AI Fallacy Master

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Kris writes:

It misses the essential point that women didn't divorce then because they couldn't have economic independence legally.

 

This is not to say that they couldn't find ways to exist on their own economically in some cases, but that they were always vulnerable to being refused access because they were women. Women would have been divorcing for all the reasons that you mention, but that risked significantly insecurity in income, housing, and banking.

 

Today, many men look at their grandparents long marriage nd interpret that to mean they had a good marriage bc the wife didn't have economic choices at the time allowing them to leave.

 

Today, women do have access to ways to earn and manage money under protection of law. That allows them to seek divorce for all the reasons you mention, which are largely the same reasons.

 

But to say that the economics have nothing to do with divorce rates is ignoring the interdependence between economic wherewithal and decisions to stay in marriages that wouldn't have started or would have ended because of economics.

 

Even today, divorce becomes an economic issue for women with less income as statistically a woman's quality of life decreases after divorce while the man's increases or stays the same.

 

So to say that the connection between the economics and relationship issues is itself a logical fallacy because it ignores the well-understood connection between economic s and social decisions.

posted on Monday, Dec 09, 2024 01:20:04 AM
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This is not a “Dear Abby” website. I don’t know where you get the information you use as premises, but from personal experience, I can tell you you should check your premises because what you claim here as facts is wrong. 

answered on Sunday, Dec 08, 2024 01:10:23 PM by Dr. Richard

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Mr. Wednesday
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The examples provided show a pretty clear pattern of changes that were made to the law which allow a woman to be financially autonomous without a husband. So, it stands to reason that there likely were women who wanted to divorce their husbands, but didn't for financial reasons, and that more women would seek divorces as the laws become more equal. 

The issue, though, is that it doesn't go on to explain why the rates are unequal. If unequal laws were the only factor at play, you'd expect the rates of men and women initiating divorce to be about equal once they're removed.

answered on Sunday, Dec 08, 2024 01:38:58 PM by Mr. Wednesday

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