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Isaiah

Inquiry regarding fallacies involving likelihood

What exactly makes a theory with less commitments more likely? How did we ever come to that conclusion, and couldn’t it be wrong? Im just a layman in this field, humor me. Thanks.

asked on Saturday, Mar 05, 2022 08:45:23 PM by Isaiah

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Bo Bennett, PhD writes:

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "less commitments" and perhaps provide an example?

posted on Sunday, Mar 06, 2022 04:26:27 AM
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TrappedPrior (RotE) writes:

[To Bo Bennett, PhD]

They might be referring to the conjunction fallacy.

I.e. they're asking why a theory that assumes A and B to be true would be, purely mathematically, less likely than one that only took A or only took B as a given.

The answer would be - probability theory entails it.

P(A n B) < P(A)

and

P(A n B) < P(B)

To keep things simple: the conjunction of A and B is less likely than A and B individually.

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Mar 06, 2022 10:40:05 AM
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Isaiah writes:
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By less commitments, I mean less assumptions used to justify a theory. For example, maybe you would say the probability of us being brains in vats with an evil scientist sending stimuli to our brains in order for us to see this “world” we live is is lower than the probability that there is a real external 3D world outside our brains, the more common sense view. The common sense view makes less assumptions than the brain in a vat hypothesis, which requires things we don’t see, unnecessary entities, which would make it more unlikely. I guess my question is, how is the fact that shaving unnecessary baggage from your theory adequate in finding the most likely theory? Couldn’t this reasoning be faulty? Hope thats makes sense, thanks.

[ login to reply ] posted on Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 10:39:07 PM

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Based on you clarification, it sounds as if you are referring to the principle of parsimony, which states that the most acceptable explanation of an occurrence, phenomenon, or event is the simplest, involving the fewest entities, assumptions, or changes. 

First, it should be clear that we are talking about the most acceptable explanation, not the most likely. When we don't have access to the numbers involved to do the math, like in your brain in the vat example, we are not dealing with probability but plausibility. Bayesian statisticians might disagree, but that's a different discussion. Second, a significant part of this principle is the word "simple," which applies to the assumptions made; it is not just about the number of assumptions.

If it were just about the number of "commitments" (assumptions), then we can simply assume magic exists (one assumption) and use that as the explanation for everything. But the reason we can't is that "magic" would be far from "simple."

Back to your brain in the vat theory example. We don't have access to the numbers required to calculate the probability of such a universe where this is the case. We can make initial assumptions and use Bayesian probability and we can make reasoned arguments for and against, but in any case, "common sense" would have very little to do with this as would classic probability theory. This is more of a philosophical musing than anything else.

Do read the comment above by Rationalissimus of the Elenchus regarding the conjunction fallacy . This explains why fewer assumptions are mathematically more probable in general.

answered on Wednesday, Mar 09, 2022 05:09:12 AM by Bo Bennett, PhD

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