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The "he said so" is not really true. It was not "he" that said anything but "People/Priests" who said so. So it's really an argument from hearsay . And people as we know lie. Believing that god spoke to someone is an unsupported belief. As long as there are no evidence that indeed the god spoke to the person, it's as valid as rumors/hearsay. |
answered on Tuesday, Jul 20, 2021 06:31:33 AM by Kostas Oikonomou | |
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On the topic of circular reasoning, I discuss how the fallacy becomes more and less fallacious based on the "size" of the circle. Trusting X because X said so is as small of a circle as can be, this is highly fallacious. Daniel is correct in that if someone agreed with the logic that a person is a person only because they say so, then it would appear to be logically inconsistent to reject God's claim that he is God because he says so. However, this is very likely a strawman fallacy . We identify people by common traits that are easily recognizable and demonstrable. If a person told us they were anything other than a person (i.e., a god, a dog, a mailbox, etc.) we would be skeptical and justified in rejecting their claim without extraordinary supporting evidence. So the conclusion does not follow (non sequitur ). Even if one were to claim if X said they were a person, and we could believe them based on the fact that they said so (X could be a computer program, a robot, a cartoon cow, etc.), this, too, would be fallacious reasoning. Daniel would then be suggesting that two fallacies cancel each other out rather than it just being twice as fallacious. Here is another example of this: Dan claims Billy is wrong about claim X because he is ugly. |
answered on Monday, Jul 19, 2021 08:10:46 AM by Bo Bennett, PhD | |
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"God exists because he [God] said so" sounds like begging the question / circular reasoning because we need to assume God exists in order to accept the premise. God couldn't tell anyone he existed if he didn't exist already, so the statement proves nothing it did not already mention. "When you call a person you see that it is that person and he is a human not any other thing because he says so" - we're trying to compare believing God is real to believing someone is human - let's say, comparing X and Y - but are they closely related enough?
So we've compared X to Y, but X is really not like Y. That's a weak analogy. |
answered on Monday, Jul 19, 2021 08:02:13 AM by TrappedPrior (RotE) | |
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