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Ed F

If I Feel It Strongly, It Must Be True

Is there a specific name for concluding something is true because I feel it strongly?   Is this a type of Confirmation Bias or does it have some other name?  

In today's Wall Street Journal, there's a column by Peggy Noonan in which she laments the immature extremism on both sides of the aisle these days and in prior turbulent times.  She observes that "radicals on both sides...have extreme respect for their own emotions; if they feel it, it's true."

Unlike appeal to emotion which attempts to convince with emotion, this is being convinced by your own emotions.

asked on Saturday, Apr 02, 2022 03:32:17 PM by Ed F

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Kostas Oikonomou
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It's called emotional reasoning.
Besides the wikipedia definition, another one is "Assuming that our feelings accurately reflect reality".

EDIT: There's also (not exactly emotional reasoning but similar) appeal to intuition - more like it is in the second version (check the logical form part) where it says
"Person 1 has a gut feeling about claim X.
 Therefore, claim X is true."

answered on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 07:57:43 AM by Kostas Oikonomou

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Ed F writes:

Thanks for your response mentioning both Emotional Reasoning and appeal to intuition 

Question:   appeal to intuition  is defined by Dr. Bo as "Evaluating an argument based on 'intuition' or 'gut feeling' that is unable to be articulated, rather than evaluating the argument using reason."

Emotional Reasoning appears to be the same, except substituting "emotion" for "intuition."

Why is the latter a fallacy and the former a bias?  I understand that emotions about issues in arguments result from bias, but to then use fallacious reasoning to conclude that what one feels must be true--is a fallacy.  If not, why not?

 

posted on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 03:10:22 PM
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Kostas Oikonomou writes:
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I don't really know whether Emotional Reasoning is a bias or a fallacy. I reckon that a bias is a perceptual or cognitive distortion of reality while a fallacy is using that distorted perception to draw a conclusion? But in that case the wrong belief/distorted reality, should be considered a factual error, so it would not be a fallacy? And that would also disqualify a lot of the fallacies in the book like stereotyping (the fallacy) , or appeal to the law , or argument from age , or appeal to novelty (which are all based on biases). Personally, I think emotional reasoning is a special case of affirming the consequent , something like "if something is dangerous I get scared. I got scared so it is dangerous." or "If my wife would cheat on me, I would feel jealous. I am feeling jealous, therefore my wife cheated on me." Perhaps it would be worth making a new, separate question about that issue - maybe Dr. Bo or some other member can elaborate on that. 

[ login to reply ] posted on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 04:32:59 PM
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TrappedPrior (RotE) writes:
[To Kostas Oikonomou]

It's more like a cognitive process that usually leads to fallacies. That said, Dr Bo might still include it (as he did for magical thinking).

[ login to reply ] posted on Monday, Apr 04, 2022 08:02:15 AM
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Ed F writes:

Thanks, will do.

posted on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 04:38:11 PM
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Mchasewalker
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Regarding Peggy Noonan, I would say this is more of a case of psychological projection and Tu Quoque Whataboutism.  I've rarely read anything she's written that's not predictably False balance or bothsidesism. Most of her arguments seem pointedly targeted to deflect criticism from her very (Roman Catholic) Conservative ideology.

If we look at the difference between Cognitive Bias and Logical Fallacy, it only becomes a fallacy when we use it in an argument. The way the OP question is framed it is decidedly a Cognitive Bias. 

"Cognitive biases are our built-in patterns of thinking and affect how we interpret and process information from the world around us, and logical fallacies are errors or tricks of thought committed in an argument and they relate to how we construct arguments and communicate ideas to others."

 

 

answered on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 01:39:13 PM by Mchasewalker

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Ed F writes:

Can you re-state your first two sentences?  I don't understand what you're saying when you say "this is more of a case.."?    I think your attack is extremely vague.   (I understand what Tu Quoque is and what Whataboutism is, but I don't understand your point).  

Also, is saying someone has a "Catholic conservative ideology" even relevant to whether they have something of value to say or not?  If so, what is your authority for that claim?  Do Catholics or conservatives or people with a Catholic conservative ideology automatically have nothing of value to say?   Again, I think your statement needs clarification.

By the way, I think her article that I included a link to was very thoughtful.   If you were attacking her generally as a writer, is that relevant to whether she had something of merit to say in a particular article?  

posted on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 02:47:26 PM
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Mchasewalker writes:

I've read Peggy Noonan for years and I find she can be quite thoughtful, but most of the time I find her to be rather smug and self-righteous. 

I grew up reading WFB, Irving and William Kristol, Midge Decter, Commentary, National Review, David Brooks, Bret Stephens, Jennifer Rubin,  and other political commentators and voices of the Conservative right.

I still do, but I find underneath it all a rather distinctive Judeo Christian ethos beneath their political views and began to see the modern Republican (Conservative) movement as a would-be political wing of Judeo Christianity, and, to a certain degree the instigator of the divisive and seditious political landscape we are experiencing today. That's just my personal opinion.

And thusly expresses my apprehension about the political commentaries of one Peggy Noonan. For me, she is a bit like Charlie Brown's nemesis, Lucy, always eager to hold the football and then yank it away at the last moment. She regularly disappoints.

posted on Sunday, Apr 03, 2022 03:30:03 PM
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TrappedPrior (RotE)
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Confirmation Bias?

answered on Saturday, Apr 02, 2022 03:42:38 PM by TrappedPrior (RotE)

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TrappedPrior (RotE) writes:

Good answer; it does sound like a cognitive bias.

 

posted on Saturday, Apr 02, 2022 03:52:19 PM
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Dr. Richard
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This is simple subjectivism: I want "it" to be true, therefore "it" is true. Somewhat more in depth is to say it is the old rivalry between the Primary of Consciousness or Primary of Existence philosophies. The former falls of its own weight, but is nonetheless quite popular with religionists and flower children.

answered on Monday, Apr 04, 2022 04:03:12 PM by Dr. Richard

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