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87blue

Is this overextended outrage?

What fallacy is this guy making when he says:

For the past few years, transactivists have largely been aiming their harassment, sexism, and death threats at (biological) women (sometimes hetero women, but especially lesbian women) but in the last year or so, they seem to be shifting to harassing “cis” (biological) homosexual men as well.

The actual enemy of Lesbians and Homosexuals (especially in the United States, but this can apply in other nations) are not right wingers, Christians, or conservatives, but would be the far left Transactivists and people who use the “Queer” label.

In particular I feel he ignores when the right do the sane thing when they assume someone is trans. And those people are more likely to committed assault.

Is the guy making a statistically based fallacy by ignoring this info?

asked on Tuesday, Jul 02, 2024 05:16:55 PM by 87blue

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Bo Bennett, PhD
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I see no clear fallacy here. Just an opinion - and as you mention - not supported by facts or data (not that the converse is, just that it is an unsupported opinion).

answered on Tuesday, Jul 02, 2024 05:21:55 PM by Bo Bennett, PhD

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87blue writes:

In the link he gives a number of examples, but there is no way to show that it's statistically representative, and again feels like he is saying them being trans is the cause when I can find similar events elsewhere where it was a right winger doing it. 

posted on Tuesday, Jul 02, 2024 06:02:43 PM
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The statements presented commit multiple logical fallacies and exhibit poor reasoning. Here are the primary issues:

1. **Hasty Generalization**:
- The author makes broad generalizations about "transactivists" and their behaviors (harassment, sexism, death threats) without providing specific evidence or considering the diversity within the group. This is an example of hasty generalization, where a conclusion is drawn about an entire group based on insufficient or biased evidence.

2. **False Dilemma (Black-and-White Thinking)**:
- The author positions "transactivists" as the singular enemy of lesbians and homosexuals, effectively ignoring or minimizing other potential sources of hostility or harm, such as right-wing groups, Christians, or conservatives. This creates a false dilemma, suggesting that people must choose only between these groups without recognizing that multiple groups can be harmful simultaneously.

3. **Red Herring**:
- The assertion that the "actual enemy" of lesbians and homosexuals is the far left transactivists and people using the "Queer" label distracts from broader, well-documented issues and systemic discrimination faced by the LGBTQ+ community from various sources. This red herring diverts attention from more significant, relevant issues.

4. **Confirmation Bias**:
- The author seems to selectively present information that confirms their pre-existing beliefs about "transactivists" while ignoring evidence that might challenge this view, such as cases where right-wing groups have actively discriminated against or harmed LGBTQ+ individuals. This is an example of confirmation bias, where one favors information that confirms their preconceived notions.

5. **Straw Man**:
- The argument may also misrepresent the actions and intentions of "transactivists" to make them easier to attack. By attributing extreme behaviors to this group without clear evidence, the author could be constructing a straw man — an exaggerated or misrepresented version of the opponent's position that is easier to refute.

6. **Sweeping Generalization**:
- Similar to hasty generalization, the narrative implies that all or most transactivists engage in harassment and threats, leading to a sweeping generalization. This undermines the complexity of social movements and the wide range of behaviors and attitudes within any activist group.

7. **Appeal to Fear**:
- By framing transactivists as the "actual enemy" and associating them with threats and violence, the author seeks to evoke fear and anxiety in the reader. This appeal to fear is often used to persuade others to adopt a particular viewpoint or course of action without a balanced consideration of evidence.

Conclusively, the statements are infused with logical fallacies and biases which weaken the argument and misinform the audience about the complexities of the issues at hand.
answered on Tuesday, Jul 02, 2024 05:17:15 PM by AI Fallacy Master

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Mchasewalker
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Seriously, this is not logic. It is mindless political non scientific detritus. WHO or what a person believes themselves to be is a meaningless demonstration of cosplay or fursonna no greater than personal theater.

i have to side with Freud these gender musings are more probably neurotic angst than ontological or physiological realities.

 

answered on Tuesday, Jul 02, 2024 08:53:22 PM by Mchasewalker

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